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The Illiberal Left

Helen Pluckrose
Episode 184 · 1h 27m · Published 17th June 2026 · Recorded in London
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About this episode

Helen Pluckrose joins me to discuss how liberalism was lost and why free speech, individual liberty and viewpoint diversity need to be defended from both the authoritarian left and the authoritarian right.

Helen explains why liberalism does not mean “left wing”, why it is better understood as the opposite of authoritarianism, and how critical social justice, identity politics and language policing have changed the way people think, speak and behave. We discuss the rise of woke ideology, DEI, equality vs equity, trans rights, queer theory, free speech, institutional capture and why suppressing ideas usually makes them more powerful.

We also get into whether Britain needs a liberal revolution, how the anti-woke movement can become authoritarian itself, and why the future may depend on liberals on the left and right defending freedom within their own tribes.

Chapters

00:00What Liberalism Really Means
00:48How Did We Lose the 90s?
03:13Phones, Algorithms and Anxiety
08:11What Has Changed?
11:16Woke and Language Policing
13:57Liberalism vs Authoritarianism
20:57How Liberalism Was Lost
23:39Why Freedom Must Be Maintained
25:33Can Institutions Stay Liberal?
28:43Who Represents Liberalism Today?
31:28DEI and Discrimination
35:10Equality vs Equity
39:29Is Pro-Trans Misogynistic?
41:38Reality, Safety and Liberalism
46:03Queer Theory and Biological Reality
49:26How Civil Rights Became Language Policing
55:06A Radical Defence of Freedom
58:51Woke Corporatism
1:03:21The Problem With Anti-Woke
1:10:48Why Suppressing Speech Backfires
1:13:37Do We Need a Liberal Revolution?
1:18:03Can Sanity Return?
1:21:00The Liberal Case on Immigration
1:24:17Liberalism as the Higher Value